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arnansnow · Jun 21, 2005, 05:27 PM // 17:27

But "play again"? what does he mean by play again, play the exact same build again?

SPARTACVS · Jun 21, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Lets say I have 4 characters. To play a 5th one, I have to delete one, then create another one. That's what you say.

That mean you are limited to play 4 different characters at same time. Considering most peoples will have one character as a mule, then you are stuck with 3 characters. Now if you play both pvp and pve, you are very limited.

arnansnow · Jun 21, 2005, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Why would you have four characters in the first place?

I don't use a mule, I either sell items or put them in storage.
I don't play PvP, but don't you only need around one character for that?
and that leaves 3 characters for PvE which is plenty.

kaya · Jun 21, 2005, 05:31 PM // 17:31

say for example you have 4 character that you like to play. a warrior lvl 18, a necro lvl 16, a ele lvl 20, and a monk lvl 14. now you want to play a ranger... so like you suggested just delete it. so, you delete the warrior so you can play the ranger. later on you want to play your warrior again... now what do you do, delete another one and start all over at lvl 1? no, that would be stupid. and so we are forced to stick with 4 main professions only.

EDIT: ya, what he said

arnansnow · Jun 21, 2005, 05:33 PM // 17:33

If you like playing four characters at once, then you should just buy another copy of the game.

kaya · Jun 21, 2005, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by arnansnow

Why would you have four characters in the first place?

I don't use a mule, I either sell items or put them in storage.
I don't play PvP, but don't you only need around one character for that?
and that leaves 3 characters for PvE which is plenty.

unless wanted to play the full game and try all the professions.

SPARTACVS · Jun 21, 2005, 05:35 PM // 17:35

Don't waste time with him Kaya. I hope he intentionally don't want to understand because otherwise it means worse...

arnansnow · Jun 21, 2005, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Then you would just have to wait and finish one before you try another, or get another account.

kaya · Jun 21, 2005, 05:51 PM // 17:51

ya, i've noticed that he's big on creating useless debates in the forums. i'm done here i've stated my opinion.

Tiedye · Jun 21, 2005, 06:24 PM // 18:24

/signed

Right now I have an Me/N and a Mo/E. With one slot taken up for a PvP character, I'll have to make a W/R to finish unlocking skills. This is part of the problem. You CAN unlock all the skills with 3 characters, but the last one is going to be some sort of misfit build.

But from reading through the previous posts in this thread (and I KNOW you all read what you're actually responding to), I can tell that this is yet another shining example of what "intelligent debate" has become in the GW community. One side, rational and logical, the other, rabid and nearly incoherent. I almost wish they would have a monthly fee, to weed out some of the kiddies who don't have credit cards. Maybe then we could have an intelligent discussion.

IxChel · Jun 21, 2005, 07:53 PM // 19:53

I'd like exactly 7 slots, please. One so I can play each of the primary professions, and then one more which is only PvP.

Prophet Of Mercy · Jun 21, 2005, 08:09 PM // 20:09

/signed

Prophet Of Mercy

I was thinking 6-8 roleplaying characters and 1, maybe 2 PvP only characters would be a nice upgrade, but anything higher then 4 total is an improvement.

OneArmedScissor · Jun 21, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by arnansnow

I don't really understand that sentance, are you saying that you have a high level warrior, but you want to play him again from the beginning, so you delete another char?

and Hu? what is Hu?

You must be the most unintelligent being I've met.
What is "sentance"? I don't understand this. What does that mean?
Did you mean sentence?
The fact that we need to baby sit you through a post clearly indicates the intelligence you hardly posses.

I don't think it's a hard concept to understand. People spend ours making characters. Why should they delete them to make new ones? That is just ridiculous. We're not asking for 25+ slots. Six is a good number. Hell, I'd prefer 8 (d2 had 8 which was a perfect amount).

Now, until you come up with a half way decen argument that has some basis of proof to back it up. Please, do the human race a favor, and shut the hell up. We've all clearly stated our reasoning as to why more slots are needed. Yet, I still don't know why you don't want any new slots added.

Now I'm asking you, why do you not want anymore slots? Do not provide an illegitimate answer to this question. Do not answer this question with a question, because it will further prove my theory that you're an idiot.
Please give factual information as to why you would not want anymore slots.

Cyrus Magnus · Jun 21, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40

Well, instead of firing off insults at anyone, I'm going to simply say why I do, or do not, think we should get more slots in GW.

There's the debate that 4 slots is too little for a full experience of the game. The debate comes from people defining experience differently. Some people see putting time into a character as a reason for keeping that character until the day they stop playing the game, while others see their characters as more disposable; they say, once they've experienced what the game has to offer for that combination, that they feel no remorse deleting that character and making a new one. Both of these are entirely relevant stand points.

The next set of debate arises from the "cost" of the game. We all paid a certain amount to get the game. We don't pay anything monthly to play it. Some would say this means we should "be happy with what we get" while others would disagree and push for improvement, i.e. growth, in the game. What I don't understand is when someone tells me it could possibly bankrupt the games developers, or in some other way devastate the company. Trust me when I say this, they will never do something that is not in their best interests. So the question here is, why are you resisting higher slot suggestions? Mmm?

We all want to experience the game in the best way for us. Would making it possible for people to have more full-fledged, fully explored, fully quested characters be detrimental to your gameplay? Would having more players with more characters, and therefore more experience of how to do that one quest or mission as that class, be such a dangerous thing?

Maybe someone would take advantage of having more slots for less noble purposes than I've suggested. This is where I trust NCSoft and ArenaNet. As they have shown, they will continue to be dedicated to the eradication of mindless farmers and bots, in preventative ways as well as direct. I see this game as getting better and better with every update. I think they are doing themselves a credit, and I know I'll be telling my friends to get this game. That is how they make more money, and they know that.

So, in effect...

/signed

artemis inferno · Jun 22, 2005, 03:46 AM // 03:46

/signed
Artemis Inferno

OddGod · Jun 22, 2005, 03:56 AM // 03:56

I already own my second copy of the game for extra slots. I don't think NCSoft is clueless to the fact that people like having as many slots as possible. I think just maybe they'd like to make some cash off folks like me. I don't mind forking over money for a damned good game twice if my attention span isn't wide enough to deal with only 4 characters. Sure, I'd like some more slots, but I rather them suck us for more cash and go crazy with development and expansion of the game.

As it was earlier said that they wouldn't add more slots unless it was in their best interests (i.e - interests of us plus profitable to them to do so.) I feel that the more people push for something unimportant like this, when I am more concerned with additional content coming as fast as it can, the more these things might be put on the backburner to appease current demands.

I am sure they have a budget. If they can afford to add slots, it's probably being diverted from other goals for the game. People aren't going to start getting paid less or anything to meet an improvement.

Then again, maybe I am wrong. Everything we got here is all theoretical unless we knew hard numbers on how many repeat buyers they have and how they work their budget, which we aren't about to find out anytime soon.

/NOT signed (Keep working on additional content! Forget additional char slots! Thanks.

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Anno Domini · Jun 22, 2005, 04:15 AM // 04:15

/signed

Luna Thirteen · Jun 22, 2005, 06:03 AM // 06:03

Nononono...for being a free online RPG, it's a wonder that we get 4 character slots as it is. 8 character slots? That's just plain greedy...if you really honestly can't live without having 4 more characters, either delete one or two of your old characters or buy another copy of the game. But honestly, I can't see how it would be worth ANet's time and money to up the character slots just because people always want more.

eA-Zaku · Jun 22, 2005, 06:08 AM // 06:08

Quote:

Nononono...for being a free online RPG, it's a wonder that we get 4 character slots as it is. 8 character slots? That's just plain greedy...if you really honestly can't live without having 4 more characters, either delete one or two of your old characters or buy another copy of the game. But honestly, I can't see how it would be worth ANet's time and money to up the character slots just because people always want more.

Your wisdom is all-encompassing.

I say those basterts should give me their first born child for their precious slots!

Ytrill · Jun 22, 2005, 06:13 AM // 06:13

/signed
Ytrill The Swift